In this paper I do not include all holy scriptures related to the question at hand. If you would like to know of any more scripture on a particular topic, search in the other included files, and indeed the whole of the holy scriptures yourself.
is God? Is he the creator of all nature? Did he use "evolution"
to create in anyway? Do you see his eternal power and Godhead in what
you know of creation?
- God is the creator of all nature.
Nature is not God in any way.
- God did not use "macro-evolution"
- There is no "gap" in the Bible between Genesis 1:1 and 2.
- God did not create "the big bang".
- There were no souless creatures before Adam.
The "fossil record" came from the world wide flood from the
days of Noah.
Yes, I see the evidence of God from creation. God is the first cause, uncreated. God transcends time, which he made, and his power is eternal in time. God is almighty.
Did God create extra-terrestrial beings on other planets?
When I was a boy, I saw movies about extra-terrestrials, and I became even hopeful that an extraterrestrial being might be nice, and help me.
Later in life I learned different.
Movies are not real, but can affect peoples' beliefs. But we should not believe fantasy (as I did). Also the god of this world is Satan, and he coordinates much wickedness in high places, even in the "movie industry".
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
In the past Satan was the spirit behind the king of Tyrus. But he IS a created being.
Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Satan is called the god of this world. He is involved in the making of many movies (and a LOT more). In many of the movies and books that portray the idea of extra-terrestrial beings, there are some disturbing ideas they often have in common.
many of the portrayed "extra-terrestrials":
- take on the form of men and women
- invade people's bodies
- control people's bodies
- control people's minds
- are "more advanced" and have "special powers"
What this is for is to get people used to devil possesion.
Satan is very deceptive.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:14
Also in these movies and books "extra-terrestrials" have a unusually high interest in promoting the very wicked and destructive anti-Christ idea of "evolution".
There is an astronomer that works for NASA here in Houston that I have known since I was a boy. He is a professing Christian (I admit I am unsure if he really is one), and has gone on mission trips overseas. On one trip he told me about, a woman became possesed with a devil, and the devil pretended to be an extra-terrestrial "channeling" through the woman. When he talked about Jesus, this devil got really upset! Bad news.
Here is an interesting scripture:
And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice, Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God. And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the devil had thrown him in the midst, he came out of him, and hurt him not.
Jesus rebuked this devil, and did not even care for its testimony of who Jesus is.
And they certainly know who Jesus is. The son of God!
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Earth and men.
The earth is a very special place in all of creation.
There is an astonomer named Margaret Geller who did some interesting research along with some colleages.
They set out to determine the structure of the known universe. Initially, they discovered in the first exploratory "scan" that the earth is in the center of an odd "stick man" shape, that later turned out to be the contact of two HUGE bubbles of galaxies and stars. The probability that the earth is in this symetrical location is impossible.
Here's the problem for Margaret: She professes to be an athiest or new age type. Before they did the scans, they predicted that the universe would be a chaotic jumble, because of the "big bang". To see such tremendous order on the largest scale, and earth in a special place to top it off truly bothered her. She told how afterward she would go speak before gatherings to explain her work. Before she explained her research findings, she asked the audience if they expected she would have found order or chaos in the structure of the universe. What they said overwhelmed her, ORDER. Indeed that is what she found, God's order. Amazing.
Because she was decieved by "evolution", even she, a very intelligent, highly trained in the wisdom-of-the-world woman, was fooled. Her own research is proof.
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
King David didn't even need to see Margaret Geller's research !
The Bible has the answer to if there are real extra-terrestrials.
Man and the earth are specially unique:
- The next scripture alone shows that there are no "extra-terrestrials/E.T.s":
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
- The heavens are not for a bunch of E.T.'s, they are for the LORD, and the earth is special.
The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.
- Of all fleshly beings on this earth, only man has the special, tremendous capacity for intricate language, advanced tool making, massive enviromental alteration, and the capacity to sin, or become born again and become conformed to the image of Christ. The idea that E.T.'s are some sort of similar beings with advanced technology and language is not true. However there ARE purposefully deceptive beings among men, with great intelligence and powers. They are not E.T's; they are devils. We can notice how the following men were deceived in a similar way.
And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city. But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one: To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Barjesus: Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God. But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
- The curse on all of creation only came from the sin of man.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
We alone are made in God's image. The sun, the moon, the stars, the animals, the trees; the whole creation is cursed because of MAN. Genesis speaks of God's creation week focused on Earth. The earth is special. Man is special.
- The gospel is for saving men, not E.T.s:
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:4
For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1 Timothy 4:10
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:2
- Jesus ONLY became a man. Jesus did not become an E.T. The Word made flesh, the flesh of man.
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
the son of man:
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men.
For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.
And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
- the structure of the heavens point to earth being a special place.
The Bible shows us that:
- The first heaven is the air we breathe, and that which the birds fly through, the firmament.
- The second heaven is "outer-space"
- The third heaven is where God dwells
In the center of all these heavens is earth and on the earth is us, man made in God's image. Again, we can see that the earth is uniquely special, and that man is also.
- when the curse is taken away, the New Jerusalem is to be here on Earth. Again we see the special place of Earth in Eternity.
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
The devils who have done the E.T. deception are not going flying around in spaceships for eternity.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Well what about the things people see in the sky?
- Some are natural phenomena such a swap gas, or for those up north the Aurora Borialis.
- Some are indeed secret government vehicles. The American Blackbird spy plane flew for a long time, before ever being acknowledged publically. There are lots of government craft, many in the research stage, or otherwise secret to varying degrees. Sad to say, like the devils, they are often intent on harming their own civilians. We have drones (such as are used in Iraq) starting to become implemented here domestically in America. We have HUGE blimps tremendous distances above our cities that have been implemeted over the last several years. There are several varietes of hovering craft.
- Some are indeed simply devilish manifestations. I had an art teacher that had a devil "appear" to her as an E.T. She made a clay model of the face.
I end with an interesting scripture which might be related:
For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
1 Corinthians 11:10-16
Is Lucifer the same being as the Devil, also called Satan?
Yes Lucifer is another name for the Devil, among other names.
Is Lucifer the same person as Jesus?
Lucifer IS NOT JESUS; Jesus made Lucifer/Satan/the Devil!
Is Satan an actual person/being?
Yes. He is not a part of our nature, as some teach, or a force or any other strange doctrine fantasy. The reason I ask about Satan is that many mystery religions/organizations teach that Lucifer is God/god and/or Jesus. Very strange, but they take it very seriously, and many of them say "they are Christians". These people are world power brokers. They do wickedness in high places. They worship Satan. Their doctrine goes down to lower level people.
How old is the earth approximently?
Around six thousand years old.
By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
Yes, this earth we are on is the first earth.
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Such issues are important because some people encourage doubt in God's word using such issues. God's work in creation is very important. We can know and believe.
What is time to God?
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:4-10
I quoted more context to show that this scripture is comparing man's view of time, not saying God "made days as long periods of time".
We can also notice:
- It does not say a million years, but a thousand
- God also views "a thousand years as one day" not just "that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years". It is both ways to God.
God created time, and God is above time, God has "the big picture". This same God made everything around six thousand years ago which to him is "not that long ago".
For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
Days of creation:
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Also we can see that this scripture specifically says this was the first day. There is no gap.
We may also notice that for each day of creation, God said,
" And the evening and the morning were ..."
Each day had an evening and each following day began with a morning. We ourselves experience evenings and mornings. These were regular days. God made sure to show us this in the Bible.
Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
We work in days of normal length. Jesus created days of normal length. We should believe what Moses wrote about Jesus creating in six regular days.
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Some people try to teach there is a gap after the first verse in the Bible to try to "add" time to the Bible to try to support their false doctrine, including saying death came before sin. That is why this idea is even in the world. This is the same reason why it is important to see that the Bible teaches that each day of creation were real days. We should be wary of this doctrine.
Do you think any of the following is not a seperate person or "being" from the others?
1) The father of Jesus
3) the Holy Spirit
- There is not only one "being" who is God that sometimes is in the role (or mode) or either the father, Jesus, or Holy Spirit.
- The father of Jesus, nor Jesus, nor the Holy Sirit is just a force.
- There are all three seperate persons ("beings") that each have the nature of being uncreated, and have the nature of being God.
The use of the word "God" is simply a matter of semantics, looking at the context. God often means just the father, it also can mean the group as a whole or any of them individually. God as a generic word roughly equivilant to uncreated creator in essence/nature. Of course god means false gods, or rulers also depending on context.
I do not know for sure but with Judiasm and Islam having the influence they do, some professing "Christians" want to stress the fact that there is only one God in an unscriptural way. This certainly would not be new, bending doctrine to match some large group of peoples doctrine, such as evolution. Like I said, it is speculation. But I often wonder at many an odd doctrine's origination and the motivation for them. I assume SOME of it is purposely mysterious in this reguard, by design, having in reality originated with no man, but devils.
They are all distinct persons. Any "morphing" doctrine is in error. Any "force" doctrine is in error. Any mystery doctrine/religion is in error.
There is a wide spread doctrine called "modalism" in English. It teaches that there is one being that manifests himself/itself in three different modes. In other words this doctrine teaches that there is not really three persons who are God but one being. What would you say about this doctrine. Is it false? Are there three and only three person who are God (have the nature of being God)?
Modalism is a heresy. Modalism is totally false.
Is Jesus a created being?
No, Jesus is uncreated!
In fact by him were all things made even the very creation of which sustained and made up his physical body while he was here on earth.
Do you think any or all of the following is/are not God: the father, Jesus, the Holy Ghost/Spirit?
They are all God.
In reading the Bible I have seen that the word god or God is understood by the context. As I have seen God usually refers to the father Jehovah/the LORD. "god" refers to any of the multitude of false god's. god may also refer to those with authority or power over others (but I am unclear on this use). When God is more specifically used, the context defines the use such as when refering to Jesus as God. I think this is actually rather simple semantics, just like any child goes through in aquiring their mother tounge. Thus reading the Bible instead of just having words defined by religious speech, conversation, and talks really helps.
So here is my observation on the naming of the group. There is no name given in the Bible for the group that is distinct from the word also used to denote their nature as a whole, as well as individually, "God", with perhaps the exception of "Godhead" (but I am unsure on the correct use of "Godhead" as I wonder if it means the Father). Trinity is also applied to them as well as a group (I think, but given doctrinal funny business I hesitate to use this word assuming everyone is "on the same page" as me).
Within the last few years I have heard the teaching that Jehovah is the name for the group. Thus some people think "Trinity" = Jehovah = God (used in the sense of all three as a group). This is distinct (perhaps purposefully blurred with) with saying one person IS the group contrary to any sort on logic or reason or sense; on purpose for some sort of effect perhaps?
The Father, Jesus, and the Spirit all have the inherant nature of being God. They are each a distinct person, and also have distinct and particular inter-relationships. Thus, for example, the Bible indicates that not only is The Father of Jesus his father, but also his God. And since the context is clear, this usage of God does not refer to all three persons as a group. When not refering to created beings, the word "God" can be used as a designation of the Father alone, Jesus alone, or The Spirit alone. It can also refer to them as a group. These two usages of the word "God" are distinct and ought not to be confused with the actual nature of this group or any of the individuals or the overall doctrine about them. All are uncreated, and were involved in the creation of heaven and earth and all that therein is.
Can the father of Jesus sin? Could he ever have sinned? Can he sin in the future?
No, never, not in the past, present or future
- God is the creator just like the Bible says. God transcends nature and is the maker of it. Flesh can not in any way be engaged to cause God to sin for example. This is true for all three persons who are God, including Jesus.
He could not want to sin as that would be violating disobeying himself the WORD. It is an oxymoron. He created flesh, and is the only man with a nature imposed on the flesh not born and raised only in the world. He knows the intricate workings of the brain he made, and could have done anything (speculation) to even keep certain sensory information from occuring, I have studied the brain out of fascination off and on for some years, and thus the speculation. From what I know it would not neccesarily be a disabling but a desire of spirit which switches on particular labryinths of channels in the brain in preparation to engage physically a decision that has been made. I think part of the problem here is assuming the nature of flesh could overpower the innate nature of God. A weak analogy would be to say wiring a human to a robot (as DARPA is trying to do, and has had some small success in) and say the robot limited the actual man controling it to be less of a man with all his marvelously intricately designed flesh (not to mention spirit etc.) which is extremely exponentially greater than the greatest robot concieved, much less ever made.
Another weak analogy would be if you welded a thin wire into the biggest steel beem ever made, then fashion the beam into a dining room table. Placing items on this wire alone suspended as a "table" would surely bend it, or would most likely be bent by children playing around it, but not the beam of steel. The beam of steel is significantly stronger than the wire. The wire does not weigh the beam down it was joined with and bend it.
There are different aspects of temptation.
Proverbs 1:10 My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
People entice me often in many ways. They have a myriad of temptations they either allow or purposefully engage me with. A particular temptation is a sign/invitation/presentation. It asks for a choice but can not make a choice. If a chef tries to entice a brick wall to engage in gluttony, the brick wall does not have the nature to choose this. Neither does God; if he takes on the flesh he made, he still is God, and his creation can not overpower him. Anything less and such a God is not the Almighty God of the Bible. And as you should know many a disciple does just this, engaging in an idea of God that is a fantasy. The God of Kolab of the Mormans, or the FJW God, or God of "theistic evolution" etc. (I am unsure if I should use the word god here instead). While I am commanded to not consent, God can not consent. Another way the word temptation is used is as a desire to sin. Gluttons are tempted to overeat for example, or even eat poorly but in excess (such as "junk food", containing the toxic dye "red 40" among other things).
There is no scripture taken in context in the Bible that shows Jesus had the "power" or "potential" to sin. Peraps one reason this is an issue in various "religious circles" today is some religious tradition.
To summarize the truth of temptation to sin, I summarize simply as
- an opportunity presented
- a desire, and choice
They are distinct. So in Hebrew 4:15 it is just the first aspect.
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
An example from his life is pain. he experienced pain at the hand of his creation. Sinful man, yea religious man, had him brutally murdered. The Bible is clear that he was in anguish over this, as indeed he had functioning flesh that was being misused/abused/destroyed, but of course all he could do was suffer in obediance out of love to the father and the people he made, who as simply mortal created beings would have suffered death, with no ability to be risen from the dead being God. But Jesus is God. Jesus is truth. Jesus is the Word. etc. And he certainly is Almighty. Much more unyielding than a massive steel beam I refered to, in fact infinitely more so.
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
(Interesting that this is in the context of temptation. The son is like his father!)
Speaking of the father, perhaps the following can be of some use. While there may be more senses of temptation than that which I discussed above, the following verses at least show that temptation can be applied to the Father of Jesus. And the father has no flesh. Temptation like other words does have contextual meaning.
Exodus 17:7, Numbers 14:22, psalm 78:41, 56
First Corinthians 10:9, Hebrew 3:9, Acts 15:10
Can Jesus sin? Could he ever have sinned? Can he sin in the future?
is God, and there is no way God can gain the ability to sin. Jesus
never could have sinned, can not sin now, or in the future.
Can the Holy Spirit/Ghost sin? Could he ever have sinned? Can he sin in the future?
The Holy ghost is incapable of sinning reguardless of in the past, present or future.
So is this because the Holy Ghost did not take on the flesh of man as Jesus did? no.
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
A big reason that people say that Jesus could have sinned is that he had flesh. I would like to point out that flesh is not a prerequisite to sinning. Devils sin being spirits.
And God is a spirit. Sin is disobeying God. So again it seems preposterously oxymoronic to say that God can sin.
Man never can be never be more able than God, and God can never be less able than man. God can not sin, created man can.
"Immutable God" is incompatable with the "theoretical ability to sin".
It is: can not vs. will not. More stubborn than a mule is a matter of will. Creation vs. evolution is a matter of ability. Creation was possible for God, "G/godless" evolution is not possible. There are no processes that can enable macro-evolution. Nothing comes from nothing and something comes from something. God is the only real answer to observation.
Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
IN, a prefix, L. in, is used in composition as a particle of negation, like the English un, of which it seems to be a dialectical orthography
In, before l, is changed into il, as in illusion; and before r, into ir, as in irregular; and into im, before a labial, as in imbitter, immaterial, impatient.
IMMUTABIL'ITY, n. [L. immutabilitas; in and mutabilis, mutable, from muto, to change.]
Unchangeableness; the quality that renders change or alteration impossible; invariableness. Immutability is an attribute of God.
- definition from Websters 1828 dictionary
Clearly, it is IMPOSSIBLE for God to do the sin of lying. This is not something revealed only here in the book of Hebrews for the first time, as it refers back to the first book in the Bible, Genesis. And back then Abraham had no written scripture, just creation, conscience, and a limited amount of direct revelation from God his creator. Abraham believed God COULD NOT lie, and so do I. Also, why would God not be able to lie, but then be able to do other types of sin. HE CAN NOT SIN, PAST PRESENT OR FUTURE !!!
I also would like to point out that the Bible is the counsel of God. This is scripture showing that he PRESERVES his words, every jot and tittle.
Translation is accurately possible. Hebrew and Greek are not needed else we would all have to know Hebrew and Greek fluently. However the original languages say the same things of course.
From G1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of G3346; unchangeable, or (neuter as abstract) unchangeability: - immutable (-ility).
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The Bible says,
For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
The false formula hate sin = never yield to temptation is false. I have sinned while hating sin. The apostle Paul has sinned while hating sin.
That is not why Jesus DID not sin. Jehovah, Jesus, and the Spirit can not sin. There is no "theoretical" possiblity.
Here is another false formula which contradicts the Bible:
God becomes human = then has potential to sin
The Father/Jehovah did not become human. The Holy Spirit did not become human.
Do you think that sinners who die without being born again are going to be tormented forever in the Lake of Fire.
Why did Jesus die?
Jesus died to pay the debt for sin according to the law. God is just and holy and must punish sin with death. All have sinned. Because God is perfectly merciful and loving as well as just and holy, he sent his son to become a man in the flesh to be a perfect sacrifice. He never sinned, because he is God, and thus God the father accepted this undeserving death in the place of the death in eternal torment in hell for those who accept it. I have accepted this wonderful gift of life.
Can people be perfect and sinless without God?
No, people do not have the power to do this without God. Our nature does not contain the ability. People must be born again
Biblically, "evil" is bad things such as a tornado leveling your house or getting sick. God can do evil to people for their sins but God does not sin. There is a distinction. Many modern English speakers use the term loosely and sometimes use it in the sense of wicked or sinful. This is inaccurate.
good: There are several aspects of what good is. I do not understand all of it. However what I do know relates to the gospel, and am quite wary on doctrines that, for whatever reason, try to make man out to be good in some way apart from God.
One sense of the word good: is that which is not evil, such as in creation. Ripe wholesome fruit is nutritionally good, unlike decayed fruit.
Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Another sense is character, with the real origin of good only properly defined by God, for God is good:
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
The following scriptures are inexhaustive I am sure, but address two things among others. One, the ability of man, and two, many men's viewpoint of "good". There is also a distinction of a wicked person engaging in activities that have something to do with something that is good (probably being forced to by the laws of nature. If one trys to defy all the laws of nature at once right now they should die fairly quickly, which would preclude them from trying to enjoy sin even for a season).
An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.
Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing.
Then said he unto all Israel, Be ye on one side, and I and Jonathan my son will be on the other side. And the people said unto Saul, Do what seemeth good unto thee.
1 Samuel 14:40
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Have you sinned (yes or no question)?
Yes, I have sinned.
If someone sins what do they deserve?
Death, hell, and eventually eternal torment in the Lake of Fire. People do NOT burn up in the Lake of Fire. People are going to exist forever in the Lake of Fire tormented eternally in this second death.
Devils are spirits, and it was prepared for them. They are not going to burn up.
Did death come before any sin of man or did some sin of man come before death?
The sin of man brought death on all of creation.
How do you define sin, what is sin?
Sin is the transgression of the law God gave to Moses. Both testaments testify to this. I wrote a separate paper of this in particular as well.
Sin is the following and they are not mutually exclusive but the same from different revelations.
- Frowardly using/misusing laws of creation toward an evil outcome (according to that evident in the cursed creation). examples: getting someone sick by feeding them contaminated food/items, damaging "family structure"- like adultery, damaging/stealing someones healthy crops for healthful food. etc.
- ignoring conscience. For example doing any of the above out of vengance, despite being pricked in the heart it is wrong.
- ignoring the holy scriptures which have the law of Moses as the standard. (I would like to point out that since violating/ignoring natural law is the same generally as violating the other two, the law of Moses being absent did not mean there was no witness at all for these things. For an example I suggest Genesis 7:2. This was commanded before Leviticus eleven was written (I am refering to definitions of clean and unclean animals). On a slightly different topic but related I suggest a couple of new testament time period examples Matthew 7:10, 8:30-32)
All these point to the same things.
Just because someone disagrees with what I am saying here, does not automatically mean they are not a Christian. I just thought you might like to know I think that. It is a matter of responding to what one knows/learns honestly as a real Christian.
Because I have heard reference to the Greek for 1John 3:4, to "disprove" that the law spoken is somehow not the law of Moses, I will add some Greek reference tools, which actually do not show this. Real Christians simply do not need to be fearful about God's ability to use translation. God is the one who confused the tounges of man. He is no wimp, or somehow messed up by this. Language is simply a communication medium. Trees, stars, people, and more all exist very well outside of the communication medium.
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The point of the law: it is a mirror to show those not born again they are incapable of doing what is right. It is a schoolmaster which shows this. When one is born again, the standard does not change, the born again individual is changed, he is a new creature. He can still sin, but one way or another God SHALL make him completely sinless. I have gone into all this allready in my gospel paper, and the particular paper I wrote on repentance from dead works.
All contrary doctrines to a Biblical definition of sin excuse sin in some way. Excuses are part of the nature of man, and are very easy to engage in. Our first physical parents did it. Adam pointed at Eve, and Eve pointed at the serpent. They did not take responsibility.
When did death start? Why did it start?
Death started after Adam and Eve sinned. Death started as God promised Adam it would if he sinned. There was never any death before this time. There were never any "souless" creatures as many teach that died before this time. All of creation is cursed and has death only because of the sin of man.
Do you think man is specially made in God's image, but dogs or other beings are not?
Man is made in God's image. Animals and angels are not.
Is death ever going to go away? If so how?
yes and no.
For those who are born again there shall be no more death, but those who are not born again shall suffer the second death forever in the lake of fire. But creation shall not be cursed anymore.
Can people be saved by different gospels?
Are different gospels compatible in some way?
Proselytes of Judaism believe in Jesus, Budists believe in Jesus. Mormans believe in Jesus. "Jehovah's Witnesses" believe in Jesus. Many plain/er religions believe in Jesus, such as Amish, Amish-Mennonites, River Brethren, and Brethren/"the Garbage Eaters". Greek Orthodox adherants believe in Jesus. The Pope professes to believe in Jesus. Catholics believe in Jesus. Charismatics believe in Jesus. Benny Hin professes to believe in Jesus. Bill Clinton professes to believe in Jesus. Aldof Hitler professed/implied belief in Jesus. Lutherans believe in Jesus. Hugh Ross believes in Jesus. David Koresh's followers believed/believe in Jesus. Satanists believe in Jesus. Varieties of morphing/modalism doctrine adherants believe in Jesus. etc. And they all believe, to one extent or another, that this is the Jesus of the Bible.
All of them are going to hell unless they repent of their dead works and come to God by real faith.
While it is true that all other "gospels" are all alike in the sense that they are wrong, they are not compatible. That is why religious unregenerate people can be so fierce with each other. I have seen oxymoronic attempts at eccumenical friendship, it made me ask these sorts of questions.
If different gospels teach different things, can they somehow be the same?
Does God force anyone in anyway to go to hell?
No. We have free will. Only those who reject the gospel are going to hell.
Does God force anyone in anyway to accept Christ?
No, everyone is responsible to accept or reject God.
Everyone has free will.
Can God's grace be resisted at all? Is God's grace irresistible in any way?
God works in a person's heart and life they still have to choose him
with their free will. Calvinism is heresy.
If someone truly accepts Christ, can they ever go to hell?
No way. Part of what a real Christian accepts in the gospel is that God has saved them from hell for all of eternity. The gospel assures the born again that salvation from hell is permanent.
Is everyone that truly accepts Christ going to be made sinless?
Do you know where you are going to spend eternity for certain?
At what point is it possible for someone to receive eternal life?
If you are born again, you are a new creature and are going to be conformed into the image of Christ. No more sin. No maybe's or if's.
I worded this choice carefully. Alot of people say that Jesus is Lord of their life. Just saying this does not guarantee eternal life. People must be born again. They must recieve the love of the truth and repent from their dead works.
Matthew 18:2-3 And Jesus called a
little child unto him, and set him
in the midst of them, and said,
Verily I say unto you, Except ye
be converted, and become as little
children, ye shall not enter into
the kingdom of heaven.
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto
you, He that heareth my word, and
believeth on him that sent me, hath
everlasting life, and shall not come
into condemnation; but is passed from
death unto life.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:
Can someone who has received eternal life, lose eternal life? If so how?
No real born again Christian can ever lose what God gave them. They are born again, and God's children forever. God shall change all his children to be perfect. There shall be no sin in the coming Kingdom of God after death is vanquished.
If it is possible to "lose eternal life" can someone get
It is impossible to lose. But some people that say you can "lose eternal life" also say you can not then ever get it back. This question is specifically for them.
I was reading about a distinction between Wesleyanism and Arminianism. Apparently they both believe a "real Christian" can "lose eternal life", but only the Armenians believe a "real Christian" can not get it back.
If you were to die right now, do you know where you would go?
Yes, to be with Jesus!
I (my spirit/heart/the real me) would go to be with God if I die, while my former cursed shell of a body can be physically recycled into the physical creation. I also have hope of a new curse free body at the ressurection of the dead.
Is everyone that truly accepts Christ going to be with God forever?
Yes, but professing Christians should be real serious about this, because it possible to have a false heretical beliefs and claim assurance of salvation. Heretics are going to hell unless they repent of their dead works (trusting in them to gain/maintain eternal life).
What do you think the Bible means when it talks about salvation? What are the various meanings? (If there are various meanings).
But in relation to being born again there are still several meanings (all related to redemption). People who are born again are:
- saved from physical death and decay, having a new body in a creation that God is going to remove the curse from
- saved from Hell and the Lake of Fire
- forgiven of all their sins
- saved from their sin nature (they are going to be conformed to the image of Jesus/sinless)
- saved from this evil world (the goats separated from the sheep). And Jesus shall reign!
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in
that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name? and in thy
name have cast out devils? and in
thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them,
I never knew you: depart from me,
ye that work iniquity.
Jesus has that particular name for a reason.
As Matthew states here many religious people are trusting in their works, even some suprising ones like casting out devils. I want to spur people to think about the connection of religious people going to hell who are trusting in their "many wonderful works". Such a person is going to have a strange view of salvation here on earth. Since I also have heard salvation presented as just being saved from hell, while the Bible is multi-faceted on the topic, and I wonder if some of the aforementioned people are like this. I joined the two for emphasis of what the Bible says we are being saved from anyway, for those who might choose the fear of the LORD.
What is eternal life?
not being headed for the second death
being made perfect
saved from sin
in the New Jerusalem
with the Terrible and Wonderful,
the prince of peace, the Almighty,
with Love, with our creator, the
just and compasionate God forever.
JEHOVAH, the Messiah, the Spirit
in the Church. Comfort, truth,
complete satisfaction and rest in
what is good and right forever,
from the hand of the I AM. His
understanding is infinite.
a new body and there shall
be no more curse, forever; no more
death, sorrow, crying or pain.
Some people that say God has the "theoretical ability to sin" (for example when Jesus on this earth)" are in a quandary. Does the "perfection" of born again people in eternity include the "theoretical" ability to sin? If not, then in eternity would born again men be less able to sin than God? This is a a logical deduction of their doctrine which perhaps they have not considered. They need to heed the reason of God.
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
According to their doctrine it would be accurate to say that Jesus (who is theoretically capable of sinning in all eternity) son of the Father (also theoretically capable of sinning in all of eternity) is the only way to be saved; and this is shown to be true in our hearts by the Holy Ghost (who is also theoretically capable of sinning in all eternity).
This is not the God I trust in, THAT IS FOR SURE!
Is Jesus the only way to the father (of Jesus)?
Yes, and Jesus is the only way to be saved.
And being reconciled to God the father is the only way way to have eternal life. All others shall be tormented for their sins forever.
Is it possible to be saved apart from Jesus?
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Is it possible to have eternal life apart from Jesus?
It is not possible in anyway whatsoever to have
eternal life apart from Jesus.
Was Abraham saved by his own works? Could he have been? Could Adam, Eve, Cain, Able, Seth or any others from very long ago be saved by their own works? Could Moses, Aaron, Miriam or others from their time period be saved by their own works?
one at anytime in history has been, is, or shall be saved by works.
We are sinners by nature and need to accept the death of the Messiah
in our place and trust in God for salvation from our sins which got
man into trouble with God to begin with. Abel, Abraham, Moses and
everyone else who has trusted in God rightly for salvation has done
so trusting in him for mercy in justice, who was able to provide a
just payment for our sin in love, that we might not perish in eternal
for our grievious sins.
Works alone do not show that a person has faith. However, faith does produce works out of genuine love, sooner or later.
The dead works that lost people trust in for eternal life are not the same as the works spoken of in the following scripture:
James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
The one main work that all real Christians have is obediance to the gospel. This is FAITH, belief in the true gospel. If they are willing, they are able to demonstrate this by showing what they believe.
The context shows that this is talking about works that proceed forth from a regenerate/born again person. Dead works are distinctly different, and need to be repented from.
Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
The most foundational work is spoken of by Jesus:
John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
This belief must be according to the Bible. For example, the belief of Mormans etc. concerning Jesus is a lie, not the truth. A Jesus who "has the potential to sin" is also not according to the truth.
If God takes all real born again Christians out of this world, then afterward an unbeliever wants to be saved, can they be saved? Can such a person be saved by his own works?
Yes they can. No one can ever be saved by their own works! Never in the past, present or future.
Has God required anyone ever to be saved by their own works, does he now, or shall he in the future?
No, everyone must trust in the atonement of Christ and never their works ever.
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Do you believe in righteousness? What is it?
The measure of righteousness is the law given to Moses by God.
There is only one standard of righteousness, and that is perfection according to the law of Moses. The law is the codification, it is not vauge; it is detailed and specific. All of scripture is not a codification of God's rules of right and wrong, the ruler of what righteousness is. The rest of scripture is application demonstrated, in part. The prophets called men's attention to the law, and promised mercy for those who would turn to God in truth, admitting they fail God's required standard, and accepting his justly offered mercy, so did Jesus, and the apostles. When men refused, the wrath and punishment described in the law which God would curse them with, was applied. For those who turned to God, they escape/d this curse and had mercy. So outside of the law (basically) was the application not the continuation of the codification of the law. Christ is not a codification but the neccesary demonstration of the WORD (the law being a sub-part of the word) in flesh, because the nature of God determines his word, and of course both are IMMUTABLE. The inward testimony in our hearts is the message reaching us inside by the Spirit, as far as we do not hinder it.
Also the Bible is finished. Inspiration of scripture is over. The last two prophets coming have already been prophesied, and what they shall do.
The law is summed up as loving God and your neighbor as yourself. The "codification" of this -the law- is the measuring tool so to speak, and someone who is measured by it and found to have obeyed it all is righteous (as it applies to them, for example the several female specific rules do not apply to me, even though I should say they are right. Another example is the specific rules for sons of Aaron). So using it as a noun, here is a definition:
righteousness, n- the act or state of having loved God and your neighbor as yourself, never doing otherwise at any time past present or future.
NO CREATED BEING CAN EARN OR GAIN RIGHTEOUSNESS BY WORKS!
"The law" refers to the entirety of the law of Moses (besides where this specifically is shown in context to refer to some men's law). The ten -including the sabbath, and images related one- commandments is an important part of this. And though I am still studying this I know there are distinctions between, law, commandments, statutes, etc.
Can you be righteous apart from God in anyway? Can others (not including God)?
Is any part of the law God gave to Moses on Mount Sinai still valid? Was it ever valid?
Yes, it is still valid. God gave the law for sinners and sinners are still available to hear the standard to measure their sin, the law. All of the law is still valid.
Do you think there are additional ways to know the gospel is true? Do you think we need to hear supernatural voices? Do you think we need some sort of spiritual manifestation such as "speaking in tongues", oinking or barking where we are not in control of the actions? Or perhaps something else?
no, but miracles from God can testify to the truth of the Bible.
Though miracles can be a testimony to people that God is doing something, they are not basic, foundational testifiers to a persons heart of truth. Miracles can come from devils as well which is one reason, but more importantly they do not teach truth like creation, conscience and scripture which all contain pointed messages which are non-contradictory and directly speak to the heart.
God does work miracles, but according to the scripture. He is not the author of confusion and does not violate his own word.
- 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
People can learn about God by these means, such as providential working in their lives, but such things never contradict God's other revelations in creation, conscience and scripture. Some wonderous workings which are not of God are designed to do just the opposite and decieve:
- Second Thessalonians 2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
I do not fully understand the truth about miracles, but I do know something about them for sure. First there are different purposes for them. Sometimes it can be to help out a born again disciple, by angels.
- Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
They can also be for signs. But it is important to see that the miracles are always in harmony with the holy scriptures.
- the last sentence in Mark
And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with [them], and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
God does have quite a name but he magnifies his word above it.
- Exodus 9:16-18 And in very deed for this [cause] have I raised thee up, for to shew [in] thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth. As yet exaltest thou thyself against my people, that thou wilt not let them go? Behold, to morrow about this time I will cause it to rain a very grievous hail, such as hath not been in Egypt since the foundation thereof even until now.
- psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
I do not believe tounges, oinking etc. are somehow needed to prove God or be "extra spiritual" or something. I have heard of people involved in this sort of thing and worse. That is just maddness or devilish. If you have a problem with this answer, please be specific. I realize that tounges and various teachings on miracles and such are hotly debated. If you believe tounges etc. are needed to prove the gospel, or are needed etc. in any way, tell me. May the Lord rebuke those who would be deviously silent though secretly holding to some such doctrine.
Can someone be born again without getting baptized?
Yes the thief on the cross was born again without getting baptized.
Does baptism make someone born again?
No, baptism is one act of obedience for those who are born again, but baptism in no way whatsoever makes someone born again.
What is repentance from dead works?
see the link to the left:
Repentance From Dead Works DRAFT 01.2.rtf
It is said that a man can becomes a REAL born again Christian, then murder, and steal, and be a drunkard whoremonger, and die without repenting from these sins, shall he be made sinless and have eternal life, or because he sinned really badly is he going to burn in the lake of fire?
Such people are going to have eternal life because of their faith. God does kill his own sometimes, and takes them home early for such actions. God also chastens. Jesus shall save all his people from their sins. All real Christians are going to be conformed to the image of the Messiah.
Do you think that the Bible is the final authority on doctrine and thus the gospel? Or perhaps there is a higher authority? Are preachers, teachers, seminary graduates, gurus, or scholars (including "textual critics") a higher authority then the Bible?
The Bible is the final authority.
Did God inspire the Bible supernaturally?
Did God inspire books other than the Bible supernaturally?
Is the Bible complete?
Do you think that the text of the Bible as God originally gave it has been lost in any part? Another way to phrase this question is: Were every word and letter of the Hebrew and Greek Bible preserved that were given?
No, the Hebrew and Greek of the Bible have not been lost in any way at all! See my answer to the next question, and also the related files I am sending.
Is the King James Version the only English Bible entirely translated from the correct texts?
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
This issue is so important because we need the true, pure words of God so much. We do not speak Hebrew and Greek fluently. Neither do BILLIONS of people around the world. God made this language situation because of man's wicked works, to keep wicked men divided and less effective in their plans. But God knows that we NEED the words of life.
Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food.
God can make sure a translation is accurate. This is very easy for God. It is true that we can call into question God's ability. I certainly have done this. Often in my life I have found it hard to trust God. This is wrong that I did this. I am not alone. Moses also did this. Once when Moses was doubting God, God said,
And the LORD said unto Moses, Is the LORD'S hand waxed short? thou shalt see now whether my word shall come to pass unto thee or not.
Languages are simply communication "tools" to speak of things. For example Jesus is still Jesus no matter what language man discusses him in.
In English there are so many "translations" of the "Bible" that I have lost count. I can not remember if it is over a hundred or more. Growing up it was so confusing! I would guess which one to read or memorize. I would blend them, and always have no certainty in my heart. One day I started reading the footnotes in one or the "Bibles" I was reading and memorizing from. The foot notes seemed to call into question the Bible! Remember that Satan questioned the word of God to Eve? This struck me as utterly horrible! I did not know what to do. The footnotes said things like a particular verse was not in "older more reliable manuscripts". Whole verses would be missing! These sorts of footnotes were throughout the entire text! It really bothered me, because I simply wanted the Bible to read, study, memorize, learn from, and live by.
Here is what I knew at that point in my life. I believed God inspired and preserved the Bible. I knew that the Bible was inspired in Hebrew and Greek. You may have also heard of Aramaic, but that is just a dialect of Hebrew.
After much study, searching, and verification I learned that.
1. God not only promised to preserve his word, but warned that some people would corrupt his word. So from the day that the Devil decieved Eve about the word of God to this day there is the pure word of God, and there is the corrupted form. I also found there are two and only two main text types of Hebrew and Greek. First, there is the traditional text which has never changed. For the Hebrew this is know as the Ben Chayim Massoretic text, after the massoretic scribe family that was one group of scribes that is well know for making copies of this text. For the Greek (new testament), this text type is known as the Textus Receptus which is the Latin name given to it (which means Recieved Text). The other Hebrew and Greek text group are widely know for having been changed by various people and groups over thousands of years. They are an ugly collection of changes, additions, and ommisions, much of which is held and "cherished" in the Vatican. To this day people who do not believe in preservation wickedly change this text type EVERY YEAR. I think it is clear which text type is the pure word of God. There are THOUSANDS of times more copies of the preserved text than the group of corrupted texts. Apparently ancient people used the traditional, unchanged text much more heavily than the other.
For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
2 Corinthians 2:17
2. ALL English Bibles except for one, the Authorized King James Bible, are translated from the corrupted text type. Only ONE English Bible is completely translated from the age old inspired and preserved Hebrew and Greek words of God. The current situation of so many translations, exploded onto the English scene in the 1880's, after some men started deceitfully and secretly start using the corrupt texts to translate into English. The main proponents were two men Wescott and Hort, in England. These men worshipped Mary, did not believe in the inspiration and preservation of the Bible, engaged in spiritism, and had many foul qualities that they were not sorry for.
When I learned which Bible was the only true one in English I switched immediately. However there was a devious problem. Long before I knew any of the above about the two text types, and simply believed in inspiration and preservation only, the King James Bible was often being attacked in many different ways. The biggest way that it was (and still is) attacked is the type of English it uses. I was taught to dread the older sounding English. I felt that I was in a bind, having only one pure Bible in an older sounding English. However as I read it I realized it was not as hard to read as I had been told! It is easy to read, and there are very few words and constructions that I have to learn better. In fact I learned a pleasant surprise. I learned that the English is more accurate than current English. I am attaching a file explaining this more. So I now HIGHLY cherish my precious King James Bible. What a wonderful thing that happened to me!
The second biggest attack against the King James Bible is that people attack the quality of its translation from Hebrew and Greek. It is probably one of the most attacked translations in the English language. However, after investigating many claims of bad translation I have found every one false that I have had time and ability to check out. The main reason (from my research) of why people do this is that they have a personal problem with the doctrine of the Bible so they use "bad translation" as an excuse to attack the Bible itself. This is a very dangerous thing for people to do, for they are attacking God. The Bible is the word of God, what he is, thinks, and has told us from his heart. People never shall prevail against God. Even in the Hebrew and Greek, where there is no translation, but only the original languages of the Bible, the corrupted texts came largely from people upset at the doctrine in the Bible. So they corrupted the text. This is wicked. For those people this is not a translation issue of course, but a lack of faith. Even today in Israel and Greece many people reject the Bible, in whole or in part. In my own country of America, one of our presidents did not like that the Bible talked about Jesus doing miracles. This was Thomas Jefferson. He actually cut up his Bible, leaving some parts, but removing others. People have been doing this sort of thing for thousands of years, no matter what language they spoke. It is a heart issue, not a language proficiency issue.
Another related deceit about the King James Bible (KJB): It is said that the KJB used the language of the time in which it was translated. It is then reasoned that we should have the Bible in our "modern changing language". But the KJB was not written in the English of the time it was translated! This is a simple historical fact that many do not know, so it is easy to be decieved about this. The KJB used many forms from Middle English, where the forms of Middle English were more distinct, and could be used to more accurately translate the Hebrew and Greek! This method still made a very readable, and more importantly, a highly crafted ACCURATE translation. They revered the Hebrew and Greek Bible so much that when the English called for a helping word, that did not directly translate a Hebrew OR Greek word, they put the helping word/s in italics, even though the meaning was in the original language in its construction. I have compared the Hebrew and Greek to the English and this method is very particular, not sloppy at all. Also I found that the supposedly better modern English translations are sloppy. Interestingly enough, the first Bible to be translated into English in the late 1800's influenced by Wescott and Hort did NOT use "modern sounding English"; their main goal was to translate from the corrupted text type. In the late 1800's English was spoken almost exactly as it is now. Middle English was becoming Modern English three hundred years before that time.
Since I was not raised speaking Spanish, it is only in the last year that I started this same process with the various Spanish translations. One thing I looked at is an interesting fact of history. In the 1500's and 1600's God allowed the catholic church to be dealt a blow with several accurate translations in several European languages. There actually was an early Italic Latin Bible from around the time of Christ that the catholic church suppressed. When new translations were being made in the 1500's/1600's these also were being targeted for suppression by the catholic church, an enemy of the true word of God! Books were burned, people were tortured and killed. This is the time of the King James Bible. It is also the time of the old Reina Valera. Modern "Reina Valera Bibles" have this name stuck to them, like the modern "New King James Version" in English. But they are not the same, or from the same preserved Hebrew and Greek text type! It is deception. I am still studying the Spanish Translation issue but I recommed that you consider the Reina Valera Antigua. Please try to not be disturbed by the older Spanish.
Please consider what has happened through time with having two text types.
Having a corrupt "version" text type or translations from these text types is like a decoy from the truth, like wax fruit in place of real fruit, like a image of a spouse but having a dead spouse. It keeps people from the Bible to one degree or another. We need more Bible in our daily lives and less confusion.
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
This false text type and translations from it:
- cause disharmony when people try to read or memorize together from different translations and they do not say the same thing. For example in English many "modern Bibles" remove many references to the blood of Christ, and the deity of Christ.
- keep unsuspecting people from reading, studying, memorizing, and applying all the pure words of God which we need to live by, placing a decoy in the place of the real. By the time they realize what has happened, if they ever even accept it, time from their lives has been wasted dealing with the decoy. If they do not want to accept that this has happened, delusion may set in. That end is even worse than the first.
- hurts evangelism because the decoy causes confusion and disharmony, and people need faith in God's pure, sure word.
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
1 Corinthians 14:33
The link to the left about the NIV shows part of the process at work in the most widely used corrupt English translation from the corrupt texts, the "New International Version" (NIV). Ironically the “New” international version is no longer “new”, as in freshly translated. There is a “newer” NIV, because though, back in the day it was newly translated, and for some years afterward people thought it was an easy-to-read accurate Bible, they figured it needed updating for several reasons for example they figured the gender inclusive language of NIV1 was not quite so accurate as was originally pretended. So even the translator team admitted they were wrong, when people reading it thought they were oh so right. There is not even one NIV, there are two! Maybe there shall be more to come? They change the word of God folks, admit it. The NIV more accurately should stand for the Not Inspired Version.
This confusing translation issue took me some time to work through personally when I was faced with it years ago. It is a confusing deceit of the Devil and his children.
The link on the left concerning preservation of scripture also talks about this topic.
What is the final authority for doctrine, including the gospel?
What is or should be the basis translations of the Bible into other languages?
Only the preserved traditional texts are the preserved texts in the original languages. This is the massoretic Hebrew holy scriptures for the old testament, and the Textus Receptus Greek holy scriptures for the New Testament.