some selected/edited portions of a conversation I had.


{PERSON A}

... Calvinists (with a reputation of being quite conservative. For example, security of the believer, you can't lose your salvation which I believe firmly...



{ME}

My issue with them is not the above (losing salvation). It is this. They do not KNOW if they are saved eternally !!! They deny Biblical assurance.


Here is a quote from R.C. Sproul (a professed Calvinist) "A while back I had one of those moments of acute self-awareness that we have from time to time, and suddenly the question hit me:


'R.C., what if you are not one of the redeemed? What if your destiny is not heaven after all, but hell?' Let me tell you that I was flooded in my body with a chill that went from my head to the bottom of my spine. I was terrified. I tried to grab hold of myself. I thought, 'Well, it's a good sign that I'm worried about this. Only true Christians really care about salvation.' But then I began to take stock of my life, and I looked at my performance. My sins came pouring into my mind, and the more I looked at myself, the worse I felt. I thought, 'Maybe it's really true. Maybe I'm not saved after all.' I went to my room and began to read the Bible. On my knees I said, "Well, here I am. I can't point to my obedience. There's nothing I can offer. I can only rely on Your atonement for my sins. I can only throw myself on Your mercy.' Even then I knew that some people only flee to the Cross to escape hell, not out of a real turning to God. I could not be sure about my own heart and motivation. Then I remembered John 6:68. Jesus had been giving out hard teaching, and many of His former followers had left Him. When He asked Peter if he was also going to leave, Peter said, 'Where else can we go? Only You have the words of eternal life.' In other words, Peter was also uncomfortable, but he realized that being uncomfortable with Jesus was better than any other option!"

R. C. Sproul, Assurance Of Salvation, (Table Talk, November 6, 1989), 20



It' not about being uncomfortable, and not about performance! It is about being sure, trusting in the promises of God. When one trusts God to save them from their sins, Hell, etc, it is not based on their performance but his PROMISE. If one doesn't fully trust the promises of God in the gospel then they can not be saved. One does not need to keep the law to be saved, but they MUST believe. If they are "not sure" then they are headed for Hell. Trust, faith, belief, are these not neccessary ? ! ? ! Again I will quote a small part of the above R.C. Sproul quote: "...and I looked at my performance. My sins came pouring into my mind, and the more I looked at myself, the worse I felt. I thought, "Maybe it's really true. Maybe I'm not saved after all."



Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

- John 6:29


For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

- Romans 8:29



Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:



These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. - 1 John 5:13